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		By: Eduard Jaliens		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eduard Jaliens]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 11:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I tried Knowledge tree &#038; O3Spaces and I must say both work fine!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried Knowledge tree &amp; O3Spaces and I must say both work fine!</p>
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		<link>https://play.datalude.com/blog/2008/08/collanos-in-the-groove/comment-page-1/#comment-60</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 01:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just came across another Groupware solution, which I hadn&#039;t found before, so I thought I&#039;d add it to the list. 

03spaces is apparently integrated with OpenOffice and MS office, and allows people to collaborate on documents. It is mainly server based, but works over Webdav. It has document versioning and checkout. 

    http://www.o3spaces.com/

Not sure when I&#039;ll get the chance to play with it, but it looks interesting.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just came across another Groupware solution, which I hadn't found before, so I thought I'd add it to the list. </p>
<p>03spaces is apparently integrated with OpenOffice and MS office, and allows people to collaborate on documents. It is mainly server based, but works over Webdav. It has document versioning and checkout. </p>
<p>    <a href="http://www.o3spaces.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.o3spaces.com/</a></p>
<p>Not sure when I'll get the chance to play with it, but it looks interesting.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 03:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the comments Bryan, especially the Mira link. I wasn&#039;t aware of that one, and think I even prefer its interface to Collanos&#039;. However the fact they don&#039;t have a stable release out yet is a bit of a deal breaker!
 
I hear what you&#039;re saying about Microsoft Enterprise Agreements. As it happens, for this project none of the entities is big enough to have that kind of agreement, and that&#039;s precisely why Collanos is a good fit for us. I&#039;m also finding that it doesn&#039;t scale very well -- the more people we add, the more problems we get -- so I&#039;d say there&#039;s definitely limited usefulness for larger groups. If I had to puts some limits on it, I&#039;d say maybe groups of ten people or less, geographically dispersed, and not sharing any large files such as video content. 

Versioning: one of the things I looked at while I was evaluating various groupware solutions was Alfresco (www.alfresco.com). While it works in a totally different way to Groove, Collanos etc, it certainly has the versioning thing nailed. SugarCRM addresses this to some extent as well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments Bryan, especially the Mira link. I wasn't aware of that one, and think I even prefer its interface to Collanos'. However the fact they don't have a stable release out yet is a bit of a deal breaker!</p>
<p>I hear what you're saying about Microsoft Enterprise Agreements. As it happens, for this project none of the entities is big enough to have that kind of agreement, and that's precisely why Collanos is a good fit for us. I'm also finding that it doesn't scale very well &#8212; the more people we add, the more problems we get &#8212; so I'd say there's definitely limited usefulness for larger groups. If I had to puts some limits on it, I'd say maybe groups of ten people or less, geographically dispersed, and not sharing any large files such as video content. </p>
<p>Versioning: one of the things I looked at while I was evaluating various groupware solutions was Alfresco (www.alfresco.com). While it works in a totally different way to Groove, Collanos etc, it certainly has the versioning thing nailed. SugarCRM addresses this to some extent as well.</p>
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		By: Bryan Campbell		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bryan Campbell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Collanos is a good (perhaps better) substitute for Groove particularly if you&#039;re working for a company that doesn&#039;t have a Microsoft Enterprise Agreement.  If you do have a large Microsoft investment particularly with Sharepoint, MS Communicator and Active Directory you&#039;ll find Groove fits a very underserved area for project collaboration.  The real power lies in the peer-to-peer architecture which allows for offline support and its &#039;container&#039; approach to managing all project related activities.  It would be great to see Microsoft Office more tightly integrated with Groove (it is after all bundled with it) and file versioning similar to Subversion (with a Windows Explorer shell extenions).  However, there is nothing else out there other than Groove and Collanos (although there is a Mira Groupware opensource initiative http://miragroupware.org/wiki/doku.php that is planning on releasing a multi-platform with a broader feature set than what Groove currently supports).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Collanos is a good (perhaps better) substitute for Groove particularly if you're working for a company that doesn't have a Microsoft Enterprise Agreement.  If you do have a large Microsoft investment particularly with Sharepoint, MS Communicator and Active Directory you'll find Groove fits a very underserved area for project collaboration.  The real power lies in the peer-to-peer architecture which allows for offline support and its 'container' approach to managing all project related activities.  It would be great to see Microsoft Office more tightly integrated with Groove (it is after all bundled with it) and file versioning similar to Subversion (with a Windows Explorer shell extenions).  However, there is nothing else out there other than Groove and Collanos (although there is a Mira Groupware opensource initiative <a href="http://miragroupware.org/wiki/doku.php" rel="nofollow ugc">http://miragroupware.org/wiki/doku.php</a> that is planning on releasing a multi-platform with a broader feature set than what Groove currently supports).</p>
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